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Title: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on April 07, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
You can request features for Saurus withing this thread.

We read and discuss every single request. Some requests will be included in future updates. Please note that there many different people with many different needs and there are technical restrictions.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: zvenx on April 07, 2012, 06:15:23 PM
HI, I asked Bastiaan already but for completeness. I wish the Save Favourite feature and the favourite folder from ElectraX is included.


Also I wish instead of just having to rely on knobs if there was a switch to turn off the effects, would be nice for both global and individually.

thanks
rsp
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: RSJ on April 08, 2012, 11:38:54 PM
hey

midi learn of all controls and buttons would be nice
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Modal Logic on April 09, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Hi, great synth by the way :)
GREAT SOUND

1. in the modulation matrix, could you make it possible in a future update for the source matrix to have the same options as the destination matrix.
for example, to be able to modulate the pitch of osc 2 with osc 1 and vice versa, this would allow direct Frequency modulation much like the jupiter 8.
I know this is done in a similar fashion on the FA noise dial, but its a little bit confusing.
this would open a huge palette of sounds in my view.
the voice output to osc pitch ext is ok, but i would like more options available from the source menu.
i own a jupiter 8 and 6 and the synth sounds amazing because of the ability to modulate each others oscillators with pitch or audio etc..

2. Also would be nice to see basic layering like the Jupiter 8
A basic whole, split and layer mode

3. And as has been said, midi assignable controllers.

4. Envelopes seem a bit unpredictable on very short plucky sounds, i cant get constant attack values on every retrigger of the same note.
Any way of ironing this out, or am i missing something ?

5. Finally the flow of GUI could do with a few improvements in my view.

Sorry if i seem a bit over critical, but this plugin is very nearly the answer to everything for me.
So it would be nice to get it perfect and be my turn to solution for everything.
LOVE IT !
Good work Tone2 :)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on April 10, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
Feature requests by Marc Mosher:

My only notes for improvement would be to add FX params as modulation targets. Also, I’m getting some pops and clicks while changing up delay time and mix and reverb mix as a I play so perhaps you can take a look at that. I know you want to keep things simple but the “\” glide step in the sequencer would be great (I realize you can work around this a bit with Filter(X), but I LOVE that feature on ElectraX”. I’m addicted to comb filters so if you ever decide to add a filter type, I vote for that one :^)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: maxdamage on April 12, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
I would like to second the midi learn function. Let's face it an analogue synth should use real knobs and switches. :)

Edit: Watching the video it seems that one can map midi to the controls but the manual does not explain how. any clues would be appreciated. ;)

Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: MaxSynths on April 12, 2012, 11:34:06 AM
+1 for MIDI learn (it's listed in the manual but not available!)

Also (copy&paste from a mail to Bastiaan): the issue with the pedal (CC#64) in mono mode is still there (playing solo lines with the sustain pedal turned on it's impossible because of a weird note stealing; this issue is not present in ElectraX or other synths, I think it's better if this can be fixed)


edit by Bastiaan: midi-learn is not listed in the manual ;)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on April 12, 2012, 11:59:39 AM
Feature requests done by users:
- extend the demo version time longer than 10 minutes
- 'init all' for demo version
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: LeVzi on April 12, 2012, 06:04:06 PM
Another request from KVR about the FX params being made available in the mod matrix, and Markus someone is asking if it would be hard to implement, they were also asking about a patch browser too I think.

Also a request for more swing options for the arp, mpc style.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Burkuagh on April 14, 2012, 05:49:57 AM
EQ like in ElectraX.  I realize there isn't a way to put in knobs without redesigning the interface but even having EQ available in the mod matrix would be very useful.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on April 14, 2012, 09:32:35 AM
There is no more space on the GUI. But i agree with you that an EQ indeed could be helpful in some cases. The only place where we could do it without messing the layout would be somewhere in the matrix.
The 'boost' button is some kind of simple EQ. If a sound sounds 'too sharp' or 'cold' to you the boost is your friend.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: drmax0 on April 15, 2012, 06:47:22 PM
Hi, first of all: Congratulations for this really well sounding synth. I demoed it in direct comparison with my old analog roland synth. Sometimes saurus even sounded more analog than my real analog one! By the way: I didn't understand the "diva"-discussion at all. Saurus sounds analog enough for me: It's the bottom line that counts.
The gui-wise reduction to the max is a great idea. But it's not perfect yet.

I would like to summarize my wishes:
- Midi learn
- Adjustable steal mode
- Global transpose knob
- Retractable keyboard: It's not needed and you get more space for additional knobs.
- Settings menu: Suggestion -> Retract the keyboard and let a settings menu appear.
- Noise knob hard to find (confusing): There should be a knob on it's own. Please do not hide it in the matrix.
- Remove licence information at the top! --> That's IMPORTANT: My personal data should not appear here,
   because I plan to make tutorials with this synth! At least hide it within the settings (see above).


Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: MaxSynths on April 15, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
OSC/Filter/LFO shape parameters available for automation on Mac


A user on KVR reported the following:

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I just found out that all selectors are not exposed as automation, meaning you can not assign things like waveform select, lfo shape select, filter type select

He's on Mac. I've checked and in the PC version those parameters are available.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: IngoWeidner on April 16, 2012, 12:24:23 PM
There is no more space on the GUI. But i agree with you that an EQ indeed could be helpful in some cases. The only place where we could do it without messing the layout would be somewhere in the matrix.
The 'boost' button is some kind of simple EQ. If a sound sounds 'too sharp' or 'cold' to you the boost is your friend.
Hi Markus,

an internal EQ FX would be great indeed. By some "research" with a Signal Analyzer i found that boosting the frequencies around 100 Hz could give some good results.
I tried to use Saurus with the Stillwell Audio VibeEQ plugin at the LowShelf (110 Hz) and the result was quite nice IMO. Maybe this could be implemented like a "Bass Boost" switch (like in Waldorf Largo). The "normal" Boost in Saurus seems to deliver a different result.


Ingo


Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: MaxSynths on April 16, 2012, 04:58:43 PM
Swing option like in ElectraX with numeric values instead of fixed options (suggested on KVR)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: MarkMosherMusic on April 17, 2012, 03:22:32 AM

- Remove licence information at the top! --> That's IMPORTANT: My personal data should not appear here,
   because I plan to make tutorials with this synth! At least hide it within the settings (see above).

+ 1 on this one. I plan to project Saurus plus do tutorials. I don't mind my name being shown but having my email on the panel is not good.
Title: Add ability to have different values for pitch wheel up and down
Post by: MarkMosherMusic on April 17, 2012, 03:29:13 AM
I really like the ability to map different up and down values for the pitch wheel. For example +2 up -12 down. One way to implement this would be to add 2 modulation sources in addition to "Pitchw.". You could add "PitchwUp" and "PitchwDown".  add "PitchwUp" and "PitchwDown".

Mark Mosher
www.MarkMosherMusic.com
Title: Ability to enter param and modulation parameters via keyboard
Post by: MarkMosherMusic on April 17, 2012, 03:42:50 AM
Sometimes I just want to plug in a value without turning a knob (since I use a laptop 100% of the time without a mouse). It would be cool to allow for data entry via keyboard on a parameter (and also in mod matrix value). Some other synths I've seen allow this if you simply double click on a param. Doing so shows the current value and you can then just type in a value number. This would be a real time saver when you know exactly what value you want for a parameter.
Title: Patch Search
Post by: MarkMosherMusic on April 17, 2012, 03:44:43 AM
There are so many great patches in your synths that I find myself withing for a patch search that allowed me to enter a search string and offered a results list. I'd also use this feature to hunt for patches by designer.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Burkuagh on April 17, 2012, 06:43:55 AM
Is there a way to hide the keyboard and mod/pitch wheels at the bottom of the UI?  If not I would love this option to be added to save on space.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Burkuagh on April 18, 2012, 05:23:25 AM
A 3rd LFO would be extremely nice.  Or a vibrato control with adjustable speed and depth even if it could only be controlled in the mod matrix.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Leffe on April 18, 2012, 04:49:18 PM
Love the sound of this little beast - smooth creamy filters and lots of brilliance and warmth!

There are a few things I'd love to see added though:

A dedicated octave switch for easy transposing of both oscillators up and down.

A dedicated noise knob so you don't have to do it through the Matrix

Can't really have enough LFO's so I'd love to see some auxiliary LFO's in the Matrix section.

Being able to modulate the Phase. Syncing the phase of osc 1 and 2 (via the Phase knob not the sync button) is great for tightening up a bass sound but makes the sound more static. Being able to add subtle phase modulation around the "sweet spot" would make it more organic again.

Being able to randomize the glide per voice. Gives you a way fatter and "smeared" glide especially in unison modes.

Some quirks/bugs?

With the boost button (it says bass boost in the display) enabled on sounds with short release time you get a high frequency noise/click on release.

There's something strange with the overall note stealing. When using a sustain pedal (pedal down) you can't trigger the same note twice without a releasing the pedal first. Makes playing electric piano kind of sounds with a pedal extremely awkward. This is in both poly modes and also both mono modes.

When in mono legato mode, holding down one note, playing another and releasing it again the first note will play again like expected. But when holding down more than two notes, releasing the third or however many you have held down, the first note will play again, not the previous one you just played. This makes for strange sounding "sloppy" glissandos, like when you run/drag your hand/palm/fingers up and down the keys Hammond style.

In normal mono it also behaves unexpectedly when holding down more than one note and releasing a note again.

Sometimes when pressing the BPM sync buttons on the LFO's  the light doesn't go on. you have to repeatedly press it.  I've also had ghost images of the lights stick when using the button switch osc wave forms and filter types.         
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on April 19, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
Requested by users:

- Clicking on the arrows in the preset browser should also be possible - not only the buttons

- An additional soundset with analog sounds
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Leffe on April 20, 2012, 04:46:53 PM
Just noticed that you loose Phase sync (with the knob) when repeating notes with a longer release unless you are in poly 16 mode.

Try selecting preset Bandpass snapper BT and turn the Phase knob all the way to the right (360) to hear it more clearly. Play a note repeatedly. In mono, mono legato and old poly 8 mode, the oscillators still sound free running. Switch to poly 16 and the phase is synced and the sound is more static.

I guess this has to do with the note stealing algorithms somehow. Would be great if this could be fixed so the Phase sync sounds the same in all modes.

Markus :

The phase of an Osc is retriggered when a new voice starts to play. If you are in mono or old poly mode the voice is reused without retriggering the phase. That's the way analog synths work. If you want a modern sound with retriggered phases on every note on you must switch to poly 16 mode.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Mike Thomson on April 20, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
+ 1 on this one:


- Remove licence information at the top! --> That's IMPORTANT: My personal data should not appear here,
   because I plan to make tutorials with this synth! At least hide it within the settings (see above).

and this one:

I wish the Save Favourite feature and the favourite folder from ElectraX is included.

greetings,
Mike
Title: Expose buttons to host
Post by: MarkMosherMusic on April 21, 2012, 06:49:14 AM
Hi Markus,

I just did a post on how I map Saurus via the "configure" button in Ableton Live. Right now you expose all knobs through the plugin to the host. Can you please add buttons as well (like waveform shape, LFO shape etc...)

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Delay Modulation Source
Post by: MarkMosherMusic on April 21, 2012, 05:29:48 PM
The decay modulation sources are great. It would be handy to have the opposite - a "Delay" modulation source that would allow for delaying LFO start times etc. It is possible to achieve this now with say Aux Env modulating another source via "Matrix" but it would be much more direct to add "Delay" types which would also free up Aux Env.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Burkuagh on April 24, 2012, 06:19:11 AM
A wet/dry control for the filter to allow the dry signal to bleed through.
A peak-width control for the bandpass, notch, and formant/peakEQ filters.
A fade-in or delay control for the dry/wet on the Chorus effect so you can use it without taking the punch out of your sounds.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Burkuagh on April 27, 2012, 12:06:16 AM
I would love to be able to mute individual slots in the mod matrix so that you can hear a sound with and without it turned on without having to change its amount value or by disabling the source or destination.

I would love this in Gladiator and ElectraX as well.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on May 14, 2012, 09:30:18 AM
A feature request from electronaut: let us save Arp Presets for us with other sounds
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: himalaya on May 19, 2012, 11:20:03 PM
I miss a sine wave for the sub oscillator.  A sine is great for some dual oscillator pads (with each osc using a sawtooth or a PWM pulse), then the sine sub adds a nice body down below. This is how some Yamaha CS80 pads are made.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: himalaya on May 24, 2012, 12:06:43 AM
Better control of envelope slopes would be very handy when emulating certain analogue synths. I could settle for at least the decay stage having an exponential-linear option.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on May 24, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
Hi Raphael,

you can use the Mod Matrix source X*X and Sqrt(X) to shape the envelopes. Here is an example how the filter envelope gets shaped for more punch:

1) In the filter section set ENV to 0
2) Select Filter Env as source in Matrix slot 1
3) Select X:=Value as target in Matrix slot 1
4) Set Matrix send in slot 1 to 100
5) Select X*X as source in Matrix slot 2
6) Select Cutoff as target in Matrix slot 2
7) Set Matrx send in slot 2 to 100
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: fisherking on May 24, 2012, 08:34:25 PM
i'd like to be able to hide the keyboard area... (this is my general request for ALL synth plugins LOL).
if there were a 'drawer' i could tuck that section in. for me, the novelty of seeing it wears off very quickly...
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: himalaya on June 09, 2012, 01:14:38 AM
It appears that if the user preset folder exceeds 160 presets the pop up preset window changes from a spreadsheet like page to a vertical scrolling pane. This vertical scrolling window is a right pain the the back side. Is it possible to have the spreadsheet preset display available at all times?
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: himalaya on June 16, 2012, 11:13:53 PM
I wish there was a purpose made preset saving system. At the moment if I select a folder during a 'save as' the path to that folder is remembered - as long as I use Saurus. But, should I perform another windows operation which involves 'save as', then the path in Saurus is forgotten, and instead of my chosen folder with my Saurus presets, I go to that other windows folder, which could be anything...

Please, please, let's automate this so that when I click 'save as' I always end up in my designated Saurus preset folder. This will save me having to use 'My Recent Documents' button, which is absolutely rubbish at bringing up recently accessed documents. 
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: himalaya on June 21, 2012, 07:47:49 PM
The LFO needs a Ramp Down saw wave option, it has the Ramp Up saw wave only. The Ramp Down shape is crucial for some classic sounds.

Also there is a bug in the LFO wave selection: when I select the saw, the display reads 'square', and when I select 'square' the display reads 'saw'.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Bastiaan van Noord on June 21, 2012, 08:18:15 PM
The LFO needs a Ramp Down saw wave option, it has the Ramp Up saw wave only. The Ramp Down shape is crucial for some classic sounds.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding (long day) :) but wouldn't the LFO+- with negative value do this already?

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Also there is a bug in the LFO wave selection: when I select the saw, the display reads 'square', and when I select 'square' the display reads 'saw'.

Ah, we've accidentally mixed up the text labels for those. I'll add it to the to-do list.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: himalaya on June 21, 2012, 10:48:10 PM
The LFO needs a Ramp Down saw wave option, it has the Ramp Up saw wave only. The Ramp Down shape is crucial for some classic sounds.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding (long day) :) but wouldn't the LFO+- with negative value do this already?



Yes it would. Thanks Bastiaan (even longer day here, hence my Doh! moment lol). I even used the negative value on a few presets. Going truly mad...
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Bastiaan van Noord on June 22, 2012, 12:55:12 PM

 ;)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on June 22, 2012, 06:03:17 PM
- an analog tape simulation as fx
- a knob for the Drift amount
- more stacked auto chord modes for the arp
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: LeVzi on June 27, 2012, 03:24:30 AM
I am sure I spoke with Bastiaan about this somewhere and he might have given me a solution, but I cannot find it for the life of me, but anyway, if possible can the Spread (unison detune) go a little bit further than it already is. At it's maximum it's still quite melodic, normally detune amounts go beyond that, so they are quite harsh, doesn't need to go beyond painful to listen to, but a bit further than it is now would be nice.

I tried to make something happen in the matrix to lengthen it, but couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Bastiaan van Noord on June 27, 2012, 01:19:48 PM
I am sure I spoke with Bastiaan about this somewhere and he might have given me a solution, but I cannot find it for the life of me, but anyway, if possible can the Spread (unison detune) go a little bit further than it already is. At it's maximum it's still quite melodic, normally detune amounts go beyond that, so they are quite harsh, doesn't need to go beyond painful to listen to, but a bit further than it is now would be nice.

I tried to make something happen in the matrix to lengthen it, but couldn't do it.

You could use the Osc. Detune knob to get a bit much detuning happening or the ModMatrix Constant -> OSC1_fine / Osc2_fine.

What also works to introduce a bit more chaos into the unison is to use an LFO routed to the PW (the OSC set o use a saw works best here) and either slow or fast frequency settings for the LFO.

Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: zvenx on June 27, 2012, 02:16:31 PM
From my other thread:
Feature Request, that the PC version will have tick or hilite next to the loaded patch, just like the mac version.

Actually in general, for more consistency between PC and Mac versions with tone2 software in general (and no taking away the tick from the mac isn't the solution :-))

rsp
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: LeVzi on June 27, 2012, 05:55:46 PM
I am sure I spoke with Bastiaan about this somewhere and he might have given me a solution, but I cannot find it for the life of me, but anyway, if possible can the Spread (unison detune) go a little bit further than it already is. At it's maximum it's still quite melodic, normally detune amounts go beyond that, so they are quite harsh, doesn't need to go beyond painful to listen to, but a bit further than it is now would be nice.

I tried to make something happen in the matrix to lengthen it, but couldn't do it.

You could use the Osc. Detune knob to get a bit much detuning happening or the ModMatrix Constant -> OSC1_fine / Osc2_fine.

What also works to introduce a bit more chaos into the unison is to use an LFO routed to the PW (the OSC set o use a saw works best here) and either slow or fast frequency settings for the LFO.



That was it, thanks lol :)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Bastiaan van Noord on June 27, 2012, 06:33:49 PM

Heh ;)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: himalaya on June 28, 2012, 12:42:44 PM
It appears that if the user preset folder exceeds 160 presets the pop up preset window changes from a spreadsheet like page to a vertical scrolling pane. This vertical scrolling window is a right pain the the back side. Is it possible to have the spreadsheet preset display available at all times?

Further to this issue, the exact number of presets where the preset browser window changes from a spreadsheet to a scroll bar is 159. ( at least on my monitor - is this monitor size dependent perhaps?)

This scroll bar is unhelpful to say the least. Or if people like scrolling down, why not have the same behavior as for example in Firefox bookmarks window where scrolling is possible via the mouse wheel, which is very fast.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Examigan on July 07, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
I would like FX available as targets in the matrix like others have said and the midi learn. Sonar has ACT for the midi part of it, but it would still be nice to have.

Maybe more slots for the matrix (ok... I am greedy) like 20-25 instead of 15 would be cool, and an EQ also.

It would be nice to see more of the matrix all at once if possible. Not much room left though, so maybe if you right-clicked in the matrix area, it could open a another window showing all of them at once?

Also, Saurus already sounds great  :)  but wondered if it has it's own oversampling going on, or if not, then it would nice to have that as a selectable-amount..2X, 4X, etc.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on July 09, 2012, 10:10:02 AM
The Saurus engine works with 2x oversampling by default. Some modules use 4x oversampling. We didn't make it selectable, because Saurus does not need much CPU and more oversampling did not have any positive effect on the sound quality in our tests.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Vdosh on July 12, 2012, 06:44:02 AM
As usual, I'll suggest to include scale changes features (ability to import Scala scales...), just intonation, and master tuning (for using different tuning than 440 Hz).

Speaking about vintage synthesis, it can be remembered that vintage synthesists often use customized scales (see Wendy Carlos, and many others) ; equal tempered scale can not be the only available scale to a vintage synth. There are plenty of Scala scales freely available and a brilliant synth as Saurus is should be able to use them. This would open an new universe of musical possibilities.

Currently the Cakewalk Z3TA+ synth has this scales features ; but while the Z3TA+ synthesis is brilliant, I prefer the Gladiator and the Saurus synthesis, sound wise.

Thank you, cheers !...
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Mike Thomson on July 30, 2012, 08:22:22 PM
two little feature requests:

- Possibility to lock the actual fx and/or arpeggiator settings so that they would not be changed on preset change

- Save / Load of Arpeggiator presets

Both features would be nice in ElectraX, too :)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: AiynZahev on July 31, 2012, 08:28:25 PM
Hello Tone2 team

Is it possible to have semi-tone information in the matrix when modulating pitch. For example when setting an LFO to modulate osc 2 semitone or pitch the read out is -100 to +100. It would be easier if it read something like +1 semitone etc if it is modulating semitones, or cents if it is fine, or if it is set to pitch then semitone then cents, like 1.234, 0.325 etc etc

Just make programming easier.

Love the synth btw

Sami
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: 4damind on August 08, 2012, 12:22:14 PM

Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on December 03, 2012, 08:56:55 AM
Requested: change in the sustain pedal behaviour
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: MaxSynths on December 03, 2012, 09:02:50 AM
Requested: change in the sustain pedal behaviour

Just curious about this...  :question:
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on December 03, 2012, 09:10:10 AM
The request concerned a change in the behaviour when dupicate keys are pressed. I will have to run some tests to find out more about usability and the technical details.

Requested: Sine LFOs for the matrix 
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: MaxSynths on December 03, 2012, 09:23:04 AM
Understood ^_^
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Examigan on February 13, 2013, 02:30:38 AM
This is a pretty simple one, might have been requested already:

If you had already saved a preset with a certain name, then when you load it back up, change it a bit, then go to save it, it would be nice if it would put the same name in the field where you would normally type in a name for it.

Right now, when you load one up that was saved previously, then go to save it again, you have to retype the name again.

You could of course click on the file you saved from before to write over it, but what if you don't want to write over that one, or want to call it something a tiny bit different liker Manic Arp 1, Manic Arp 2, etc.?

Not a huge deal, just a convenience sorta thing I guess.   :)
 





Title: Re: Saurus feature requests - new WHITE SKIN problem
Post by: rank on May 01, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
new WHITE SKIN problem:

Hi--just installed the new WHITE SKIN - love it EXCEPT:

any way to put WHITE MARKS on the all the knobs??  You can’t tell what you are adjusting.

They are really hard to see with the black makers on the black knobs. It really needs to be fixed. :lamp:

I use this synth live--it's awesome and the WHITE SKIN is really helpful.

Thanks
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Bastiaan van Noord on May 02, 2013, 02:28:02 PM

Hi Rank,

I've sent you an email about this.

Cheers!

-Bastiaan-
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Examigan on June 29, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Sorry if I mentioned any of these before already:

I know there is the file you can put in the Saurus folder and it will hide the keyboard, but it should be made so it can be hidden with a menu, like Rayblaster does.

Plus I'd like an easier way to assign midi control to my new keyboard, without having to try and get Sonar set up a certain way.

I think also I'd mentioned before... I'd like to assign effects as targets in Mod Matrix, for all the Tone2 synths actually   ;)


Besides that, I  love Saurus!  :)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: dazweeks on September 04, 2013, 05:09:59 PM
Hi guys!

A "load arp" option on the main menu would be good where you can easily scroll thru arp presets without having to use File --> Load Arp for each one.

Also a "lock arp" so you can scroll thru sound presets while having the same arp preset loaded...

thanks again for some fantastic synths and sounds...

take care
Darren
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Izishtke on September 20, 2013, 10:45:33 PM
1) FX section parameters in Matrix as destinations (rather, most important request)
2) Maybe, add poly32 / 8x Unison modes (not critical, just as the idea, as borderline acceptable option for the CPU)
3) Add Sinus form to LFO

But in general, a great tool, i like Tone2 sound nature.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Polaris Glow on December 06, 2013, 10:59:20 AM
Hello,

Please, is it possible in next update to have a Master Tuning in HZ (like the one in Kontakt or Omnisphere) to make possible to tune Saurus with other than the standard A440 Hz
(like A432, A435, A444 and so on)?!?
At the moment I should do that in the Matrix... with Const applied to Osc Fine,
but it's not easy to set it with precision, and it works only on the current patch sound,
not a general plugin setting.

I would like also to be able to assign external CC controllers to Cutoff, Resonance and many more other parameters directly on the GUI knobs (as in Omnisphere and other synths).
On my system (Cubase 4.2, VEPRO 5 and Windows7 64bit) that doesn't work!
I make it work only through Cubase automation quick controls in the inspector, but that's not confortable...
and if transferring Saurus instance inside VEPRO, the recorded automation seems to not work anymore.

Do CC controls really not work directly on Saurus GUI or am I doing anything the wrong way?
(or my system it's the one working wrong?)

Thanks in advance! :)

Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on May 04, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Feature request:
A more easy to programm pitchwheel assignment for the halftones. It could be added to the config menu.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: dave on May 04, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Feature request:
A more easy to programm pitchwheel assignment for the halftones. It could be added to the config menu.
Please see my separate post about this.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: dave on May 04, 2015, 05:07:30 PM
These are phrased as questions, in case you can already do any of this:

- Is there a way to initialize only one control or mod parameter to its default setting?

- Is there a way to revert a control to the setting it had when the current patch was loaded?

- Is there a way to compare the current state of an entire patch with its last saved state? Best would be a simple Compare toggle button, which when toggled would keep track of the current edits, but play the last saved version. Clicking it again would toggle back to the edited version. That would be great, you could compare the sound to see if you like the changes you had made or compare settings.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on May 05, 2015, 11:41:24 AM
Hello Dave,

Press strg/ctrl+left mouse to initialize control to the default state. This works for all Tone2 products.

An undo/compare function is currently not included, since it has not been requested so far. However you can do a workaround if you save a new patch with a new name (temp.fxp) and load the old patch.

Best Regards
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: dave on May 05, 2015, 12:10:40 PM
Thanks Markus, I actually did know about ctrl-click, forgot about it when I was posting.

Please do consider this a vote for a compare function. All synths and effects should have this feature IMO. It was very common on hardware synths back in the day, but I haven't used a newish one for a long time. Seems easy, and super useful.

Is there some formal thing I should do to make it a "real" feature request? Is there formal voting on FRs by the community? (Sorry, I'm new here,as you can tell...)
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on May 06, 2015, 11:58:37 AM
Hello Dave,

this thread is the exactly the right place to do feature requests. There is nothing formal necessary. Simply write what you would like to see included to future updates.

Best Regards,
Markus
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: dave on May 06, 2015, 04:29:18 PM
Since the "Pan" knob controls stereo spread in Unison mode, how hard would it be for that label to change then? It'd be a lot clearer, I see people asking why unison presets all have odd "pan" settings, when they don't really.

Take advantage of the fact that this is software, doesn't have to have fixed labels.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: dave on May 06, 2015, 04:30:09 PM
Greater visual contrast in the modulation matrix! It's harder to read than it needs to be.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: dave on May 06, 2015, 04:32:44 PM
Knob or switch or some more straight ahead way to use "normal" noise than the technique described here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=434391&p=6125741#p6125536
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests (Mouse Scroll Functionality?)
Post by: Naveman00 on June 11, 2015, 02:46:34 AM
I am new to the forum and Saurus (AWESOME Synth by the way!) and while I have searched the Saurus 1/2 manual I cannot find a way to use the mouse "scrolling wheel" to adjust any of the parameters (knobs etc...).

Has this already been asked/answered? If not, could the ability to use the mouse wheel for coarse and fine knob adjustments be added in an update? Most programs I have used seem to require one mouse click on the desired knob, hovering over it, and then simply to (mouse) scroll up or down for "coarse" adjustment WHILST "fine" adjustment is performed by clicking the desired knob once and then holding "Control" on a PC and scroll up or down ("Command" and scroll on a MAC or so I believe, but not positive).

Sorry if a repeat question or feature request but searched the forum and manual and couldn't find any mention of it.

Thank you everyone at Tone2!

Naveman00
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on June 12, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Hello Naveman,

mousewheel = increment/decrement a knob by 10%
Shift+left mousebutton = finetune a knob
Strg/Ctrl/Apple+left mousebutton = reset a knob
Alt+left mousebutton = cirular control of a knob

Best Regards,
Markus
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: abject39 on November 17, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
Hey Markus,

Can you update the ARP to be more inline with Icarus and nemesis? Would be nice to do things such as UP/DOWN 3 octaves.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: nicksohn on March 01, 2017, 02:45:38 AM
Please make LFO rate can be set to 0!
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: nicksohn on March 05, 2017, 12:49:08 PM
and hopefully, there will be an enhancement of low frequency, too!

This is very nice synth! I like it! Especially, Sound/CPU-Hit ratio is fantastic!
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Dumbo on July 05, 2018, 05:40:01 AM
Could you please make the tooltips/values for Saurus hideable, like you did for Electra 2?
When you are finetuning values, the tooltips/value displays are very helpful, but it is an analog synthesizer simulation. Sometimes I just want to have some clean old analog fun. The user interface looks so nice, but the little square boxes are sometimes disturbing. The option to have them or not would be really great! ;)

Cheers

Dumbo
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on July 05, 2018, 12:04:22 PM
Hello Dumbo,

your feature request has been implemented:

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?topic=2593.0

Cheers!
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on July 05, 2018, 05:17:07 PM
Feature request: Beeing able to hide the tooltips and the value boxes for the knobs

Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Willqen on November 08, 2018, 05:06:21 AM
Hello Marcus, first ... thank you for this wonderful synth. I seriously shopped around for several weeks before deciding on this synth. It has the sound and features that clearly rank it amongst the best of the VA synths available, certainly the best for my music. I have no complaints.

I've read through a lot of your (and other's) posts here. I'm aware that the interface, or GUI, if you will, is full, no more room for any more knobs.

Considering that there are many more oscillator controls available within the modulation matrix that are not available from the interface with a knob ... is there any consideration of perhaps adding an additional page, or perhaps a partial page, so we can access the fine tuning, and/or the fine pitch parameters and perhaps some of the other "un-knobbed" parameters from the interface?

While these parameters can be accessed within a very fine modulation matrix, there are just 15 slots. And with the modulation filters available, which are just fantastic, that reduces the number of matrix slots even further.

I realize that compromises must be made, and this synth really does have a fantastic interface and modulation matrix. Perhaps adding another parameter page with more controls behind the existing one would be doable?, I don't know, but I did think it was worth asking about. Perhaps adding more modulation slots would be more workable .... ?

Again, I really love this synth. However you continue developing it, I'm sure will continue to be excellent. Your other synths are equally excellent and I'm sure there will be more acquisitions for me in the near future.

Thank you again,
Will       
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on November 08, 2018, 10:10:50 AM
Hello Willqen,

Having another page for the additional parameters is a good idea. I remember Vanguard, a synth from another company where i did create the audio engine. Here you were able to switch to the backside of 'the hardware'. This solution would not break the design of the front interface.

Tip: Instead of detuning the fine pitch with the matrix separately you can also use the 'detune' knob on the gui. It automatically detunes osc1 upwards and osc2 downwards.

Best regards,
Markus
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Willqen on November 08, 2018, 11:32:12 PM
Hello Markus, thank you for your quick reply.

The de-tune function is indeed a terrific feature. And it does make up for not having accessible knobs for fine tuning. That is one of the reasons that Saurus impressed me so much. How you prioritized the feature set to give the functionality this synth posses. Really remarkable design work. I commend you.

As is my habit, while researching prospective software purchases the best resource for me is the owners manual, which I am grateful you allow to be downloaded and studied by prospective customers. I wish more vendors would allow that as it makes me much more confident in my choice for purchase. This feature was outlined in the manual, as well as the possibilities, and parameters accessible within the modulation matrix, as well as many others. This is what made it really easy to buy this synth, and ... why I'm looking at Icarus, Electra, Nemesis, etc., etc.

I'm glad that you find the idea of a second page a good one, perhaps you may include it in a future update. I would welcome that, although I am very happy with it as it is, no doubt.

Thank you again Markus,

Will

PS: My apologies for misspelling your name in my previous post.
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Burkuagh on March 01, 2020, 11:52:54 AM
If and when you guys do any updates on Saurus2 could you please implement double click on the mouse to reset the parameter the way it is with your other synths.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Saurus feature requests
Post by: Markus Krause on March 02, 2020, 09:30:37 AM
I already built the PC binary for distribution. I might be in for 2.6 rc2 PC and 2.6 Mac.

You can also reset to default with:

- righ click -> reset to default

or

strg+left click (PC)
control+left click (Mac)