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General Category => Icarus => Topic started by: OneOfManyPauls on August 05, 2016, 04:19:28 PM
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Edit: I've renamed this thread to make it more meaningful given it has more useful content in it than just the sub 37 wavetables.
I saw Markus' post about sharing patches on this forum, so I thought I'd share a moog sub 37 bass patch.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zjf8h47j3hmzos/sub37_patch_wt.zip?dl=0
It uses a wavetable I made by sweeping the sub 37 oscillator through it's various waveforms - from triangle > saw > square > pulse - with the filter fully open in 6db mode on the sub 37.
The patch follows the sub 37 layout - it's the same wavetable in all 3 icarus oscillators but the 3rd has a square waveform selected an octave below the other 2 to act as the sub. You can use the icarus oscillator wave knob to select (or modulate) the waveform you want, then use the filters etc to shape the sound. Really liking the way this sounds compared to the real sub 37.
I've included 2 versions of the wavetable - one normal (5/10 on the sub37 oscillator level knob) and one driven (10/10 on the sub 37 oscillator level knob).
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Hi,
many thanks for your patch and the wavetable.
At my factory preset called "Hyper Brass IW" i had used a Sawtooth based on the Moog Slim Phatty that i owned until last year.
SInce i had started doing patches at the closed Beta of Icarus I also had a wavetable from the waveforms of the Moog Slim Phatty (Triangle, Saw, Square. Wide Pulse, Medium Pulse, Narrow Pulse)
You could download it here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53230726/Slim%20Phatty%20IW.zip
This does not use further interpolation/crossfading of the waveforms in the wavetable editor (while i could do one with this too). Anyway with the Fade knob in the Oscs set to maxmum and using the Wave knob you still ge a more or less smooth interpolation. Will mabye try to post another version with additional interpolations soon. Using a wavetable with only the Square and the Pulse waveforms to create a PWM wavetable could make sense too.
It did not seem to make much sense starting another thread to post this download.
Maybe later i will also do wavetables based on my Pulse 2 and Bass Station II analog synths (got the BS II recently).
Best wishes,
Ingo
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Thanks for that. Love your bass patch.
As with the slim phatty, the sub 37's oscilaltors are continuously variable. Sweeping the waveform knob on the sub 37 and sweeping the wave knob for those wavetables in Icarus look and sound very close to me.
I guess you could have separate wavetables for PWM, but the sub 37 doesn't work that way - being able to modulate the sweep across the full spectrum is part of its charm.
Here's a few more patches I made with those wavetables - there's the same bass using the square rather than sawtooth, saws as the sub 37 can do it (but obviously poly in icarus), and saws using Icarus's hypersaws.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/idysswoaa9muvs3/sub37_patches_2.zip?dl=0
It's really all about the wavetables themselves rather than these being finished patches in their own right - with the 3 oscillator setup of Icarus, using these to build a patch can give the spirit of the sub 37 hardware.
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Here is a ZIP with 2 PWM wavetables based on 4 waveforms from the Moog Slim Phatty (Square + 3 different Pulses) that were also included in the other wavetable i posted in my last post above:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53230726/Slim%20Phatty%20PWM%20Wavetables.zip
One is a "normal" wavetable with a Square at Wave 1 and a narrow Pulse at Wave 256.
The other wavetable is "bipolar" with a Square at the center (Wave 128) and a narrow Pulse at the first and last waveform of the table.
Ingo
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Here's a really typical sub 37 patch, using 3 oscillators and sweeping across saw/pulse on one and just sweeping pulse waves on the second with a sub osc to beef it up.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kjwxfduvu8zrq0h/sub37_pwm.fxp.zip?dl=0
and some mother32 wavetables: saw, square and PWM:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o1oj4wri8rdaeml/mother32_wt.zip?dl=0
Here's a preview wav of the 3 wavetables going through the icarus LP Butter 24db filter - saw > saw+res > square > square+res > pwm > pwm+res.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9xy0pbh6y5c4mz/mother32_icarus_prev.wav?dl=0
Have to say, using this kind of wavetable and Icarus's filters sounds better than most VA synths to my ears - especially as these are dry and not effected to hell and back.
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Thank you Paul
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I've renamed this thread to make it more meaningful given it has more useful content in it than just the sub 37 wavetables.
Here's a link to something I find useful as a starting point for making big crossfaded wavetables - it's a 255 x silent waveform wavetable:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wp7ejes4rd3qkp/blank_255.wav.zip?dl=0
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Here's a link to zip file with some wavetables made from the DSI Prophet 12:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1p7tbisciesospz/p12_wavetables.zip?dl=0
- All 16 non-noise waveforms crossfaded with icarus's wavetable editor (orig waveforms at 1,15,30,45 etc)
- All 16 non-noise waveforms as single waveforms
- PWM, saw, sine and triangle wavetables - each with the waveforms swept with the p12's shape mod
Unlike the sub 37 and mother 32, there was no merit in recording full wavetables of single static waveforms as they're digitally generated in the p12 and rock solid, even after going through the analog filter.
Waveform order:
Sawtooth
Pulse
Triangle
Sine
Tines
Mellow
Church
Muted
Nasal
Boing
Gothic
Ahhh
Shrill
Ohhhh
Buzzzz
Meh
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Thank you Paul!
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Another batch of wavetables taken directly from a hardware synth - this time it's the Roland JD-XAs turn.
One nice thing with this synth is the filter can be bypassed completely, so these are totally raw oscillator and they're particularly buzzy and characterful - so great foundations for filtering.
the zip file contains PWM, saw, sine, square, triangle and a ring-modded square sweep thing.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctj8dadm126nzxe/jdxa_wavetables.zip?dl=0
imo, best results come with fade at zero, EQ off, and different 2hz+free running LFOs doing the wavetable position selection for each oscillator (except for PWM obviously!).
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Thank you!
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Thanks, Ingo and Paul!
I'm still learning the synthesis techniques and tricks for Icarus, so the "finished" patches help me work my way backwards to see how the wavetables can be best used. But I appreciate the work you've done here, and I'll keep checking this for more stuff and more tips!
Steve